Today on the Gut Health Reset Podcast, we are discussing plastics, BPA, and their effect on your gut health with special guest Dr. Wendie Trubow! Plastic is everywhere in our modern world, and more and more, we are discovering the potentially harmful chemicals that reside in the plastic of our food containers and packaging. It’s important for you to know why these chemicals are harmful, where they can be found, and what you can do to protect yourself and your gut!
In today’s episode, we will answer these questions:
– What chemicals do plastics contain and what do they affect?
– How does estrogen impact your gut?
– How does BPA end up in your gut?
– How does BPA affect your gut health?
– How can you avoid BPA in your diet?
– And more!
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About Dr. Wendie Trubow:
Dr. Wendie Trubow is an obstetrician-gynecologist in Newton, Massachusetts. She received her medical degree from Tufts University School of Medicine and has been in practice for years. Through her struggles with mold and metal toxicity, Celiac disease, and a variety of other health issues, she has a deep sense of compassion for what women are facing when they start seeking out help.
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Dr. Wendie Trubow: Three most impactful things you can do. No single use plastic water bottles, no cans that have BPA and no plastic for food, especially hot food.
Intro: Are you struggling with bloating, gas, constipation and fatigue but don’t know what’s causing these problems? The Gut Health Reset Podcast with Dr. Ann-Marie Barter dives deep into the root causes behind these issues that start in the gut. This podcast will give you the knowledge you need to heal your gut and reset your health.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Today, my special guest is Dr. Wendy Trubow. She is an M.D., MBA. She is a functional medicine gynecologist. She received her MBA from Tufts University in 2000 and has been practicing functional medicine since 2009. After all these years, she is still passionate about helping women optimize their health and their lives, while her credentials show that she’s a solid medical backdrop to help women achieve vitality. Her own health journey has been inspired and supported her methods of care through her struggles with mold, metal toxicity, celiac disease and a variety of other health conditions. She has developed a deep sense of compassion for what her patients are facing when she is not helping her patients in her practice. Five Journeys You can find her alongside her husband and their four kids, creating a eco system and their yard that provides nourishment to both their body and soul. Thank you so much for coming back on the podcast. It is amazing to have you again.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: My pleasure, and I’m so grateful we can do this. This will be fun.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Yes, and the last time you were on it was awesome. You just so much important information dump. Yeah, and it was. It was so much. And so I wanted to break this down into smaller pieces because I think what you’re talking about is so incredibly important and it’s so incredibly important that people pick up your book and incorporate this into their lives. But I want to just go through a few of the main categories, and we’re just going to break them down into smaller pieces. But I want to start with plastic. There’s so much misinformation around plastic and what chemical is plastic?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: So it’s called Bisphenol A. Otherwise known as BPA, I think you’ve seen on certain containers, BPA free and the bisphenol A disrupts our it’s a it’s a xeno estrogen. So meaning it acts like an estrogen, but it’s not really an estrogen, and it disrupts the entire endocrine system. So endocrine is thyroid adrenals, ovarian or testes, depending on your gender, and it really can wreak havoc on your health.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Which is very scary. And so we do know I just want to dove into this for just a second. We do know that estrogen can be terrible for the gut, for example, and it being the Gut Health Reset Podcast. But but how does estrogen have a little bit of an impact on the gut there?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: So there’s so many layers to this memory. So estrogen winds up in the gut as something to process, but too high or too low for both estrogen and progesterone. Too high to low can make you feel bloated. Throw off the function of the gut make you feel wrong. And so when it ends up in the gut to be processed, it shouldn’t impact a gut in any way because by that point, it’s inert. However, if it gets separated from its binder, it then becomes more back to being an intermediate, reactive process that can make it even more toxic and throw off the system even more so. It’s kind of all these roads lead to gut dysfunction, endocrine dysfunction, fatigue. It’s pretty broad, right?
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Absolutely. And how are we getting in BPA into our bodies?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Yeah. So BPA is used as a liner for a lot of cans to make food, not stick to it. So unless you’re canned specifically says BPA free or the company says, we don’t use it, you’re getting exposed to BPA and they’re not required to put it on their bottles. It’s it’s like a trade secret kind of thing. So cans is one way to canned food,
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: plastic
Dr. Wendie Trubow: water bottles, super bad for you. And it’s funny. I just noticed that some of the major water companies said BPA free on their bottles, except it’s still plastic. So it might not be bisphenol A, but it’s another derivative. You know, one molecule change. So it’s not BPA, but it’s still plastic in the bottles and it still doesn’t degrade. And then another major source would be if you’re eating food from plastic containers and it’s warm, it’s causing the plastic to leach into the food and you’re going to be exposed that way.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Yeah. I mean, just to break this down, I mean, in a couple of different ways, I remember getting a call from somebody and they’re like, you eat canned tomatoes on like now. And they’re like, Why BPA? No, I did not know there was BPA and canned tomatoes, which is kind of scary like, right, you’re getting organic or whatnot, but yet still. And so I think that that’s an amazing point that you brought up. The other thing is we’re moving into summertime and you keep this plastic water bottles in your car. Oh yes, and it’s terrible. It’s terrible. And so heating those up on top of that also. And then people also don’t think about putting hot food into plastic containers, not just heating them up, but a hot food in a plastic containers. Yep. Right.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Plastic and food don’t go together.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Yeah. So just stay away from that. Instead, use glass, right? Yup. So many people struggle with bloating, bowel issues, brain fog, fatigue. You might not even have any gut issues, but did you know the cause of it could be food sensitivities or gut infections? What I have done is I have brought a talented functional nutritionist into my practice. We have very similar training in the nutritional world. And her name is Alexis Appleby. She is awesome. So you can head on over to our website. &Lt. Alti Fam Fam Med Med and have a consultation with her and schedule so that she can help you get to the root cause of your problems. So that’s it’s pretty scary, so how is people disrupting our microbiome
Dr. Wendie Trubow: at a specific level? I don’t know the answer to how it’s specifically a
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: thing anybody does.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: So it’s not we won’t dove into the chemistry of it because I don’t, I don’t know, and I don’t think anyone does. It’s really what’s happening is that these are foreign substances that the body has to has to deal with, and it creates stress on the system. And and it’s interesting because we’re talking about a number of different things in our conversation, but a lot of these toxins boil down to they create a an environment of stress and imbalance that throws the microbiome off, throws the adrenals off, throws the liver off. And I don’t know if you remember or if I even referred to that in our other conversation that the Holy Trinity. So the adrenals, the liver and the gut is the medical holy trinity. And if once thrown off, they’re all thrown off. So if your gut is slightly challenged, it’ll send signals to the adrenal, stressing them. And when the adrenals are stressed, they shut down detox. So you, you start to see this. I call it circling the drain when one throws off the other, and it just perpetuates itself. So when the microbiome is thrown off, you can have kind of any symptom bloating, gas, diarrhea, constipation, overgrowth of inappropriate bacteria and with inappropriate bacteria get over secretion of something called beta glucan. Panetti’s, which is this enzyme that causes you to recycle hormones that were previously inert on their way out of your body. You’re recycling them as very toxic intermediate forms. So the disrupted microbiome can then go on to disrupt your hormone levels even more.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: And have you seen any clinically? Have you seen that with BPA that you think is correlated there with higher levels of particle canaries?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: It’s it’s hard to draw a straight line between them because we’re never just impacting one thing. We’re never just saying, OK, cut out your plastic water bottles and we’ll check beta glucan at eight in six months. It doesn’t quite go like that. It’s really a, I call it, a team approach because we’re doing the adrenals, the liver, the gut, the hormones, the toxins, all at the same time. And so when you put them in that basket, it does absolutely impact beta glucan. Although I have to tell you, if I see high beta glucan entities, I’m not just waiting for it to go down, we’re actively inhibiting it. So by the time I recheck it, it’s down because I’ve given someone all these things to inhibit its production.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Yes, that’s so very important, very important in biblical Connery’s. You know, I just want to just touch on this a little bit. When you see high levels of data on arrays, are you nervous about things like colon cancer or polyps or anything to that degree, which you know, it’s not just some fancy fun term, so.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: No, I say to women, you you can draw a straight line between beta glucan titties and increased risk of estrogen dependent cancers and hormone dependent cancers. So one hundred percent, I say to them especially, you know, 40 percent of women have fibroids. Fibroids are an estrogen dominant state, and beta guaranties creates an estrogen dominant state. And so absolutely, I’m concerned about cancers, and I’m like, We need to get this down because it’s stimulating the system to produce or be out of sync, right?
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Absolutely. So detox pathways need to run, right? Yes. So this is very important. So how do we avoid BPA?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Super easy, right? Don’t put food in plastic, period. Just sort of go, OK, no more plastic. We’re getting rid of it. Don’t heat food in plastic. My kids were like, It’s heavier. I’m like, I don’t care. I don’t care. It’s heavier. Just carry it. Don’t drink from the single use plastic water bottles. They’re really bad for you. And that includes, you know, you don’t think about it like kombucha. A lot of people love their kombucha, but it comes in a plastic bottle unless you’re making it yourself. And then look for on your cans something that would say BPA free lining, because that’s another huge sources are the three most impactful things you can do. No single use plastic water bottles, no cans that have BPA and no plastic for food, especially hot food.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for educating us on VPAS. This has just been awesome to have you here today. Thank you. Thanks, Anne-Marie.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: My pleasure.
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