Today on the Gut Health Reset Podcast, we are continuing our discussion with special guest Dr. Wendie Trubow by moving on to the topic of pesticides! Modern pesticides are typically chemical substances that the majority of farmers use on their crops to help deter insects and prevent viral infections. But despite their utility and nearly universal use, we know pesticides can be extremely harmful to your health, and gut microbiome. And you might just be surprised by how they can end up in your body!
In today’s episode, we will answer these questions:
– How can pesticides contaminate organic foods?
– How does the most common pesticide affect the gut?
– How can you rebuild your microbiome after pesticide contamination?
– What probiotics can help you counteract the effects of pesticides?
– Why should you be careful to avoid artificial sweeteners?
– And more!
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About Dr. Wendie Trubow:
Dr. Wendie Trubow is an obstetrician-gynecologist in Newton, Massachusetts. She received her medical degree from Tufts University School of Medicine and has been in practice for years. Through her struggles with mold and metal toxicity, Celiac disease, and a variety of other health issues, she has a deep sense of compassion for what women are facing when they start seeking out help.
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Dr. Wendie Trubow: If you’re eating organic food that was grown in a field that was right next to a conventional field when they spray it sprayed here, but the wind blew and it blew it here. And here’s the organic field over here. And so you get exposed through not only eating foods that are not organic, but eating foods that might be contaminated.
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Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Today, my special guest is Dr. Wendy Trubow. She is an M.D., MBA. She is a functional medicine gynecologist. She received her MBA from Tufts University in 2000 and has been practicing functional medicine since 2009. After all these years, she is still passionate about helping women optimize their health and their lives, while her credentials show that she’s a solid medical backdrop to help women achieve vitality. Her own health journey has been inspired and supported her methods of care through her struggles with mold, metal toxicity, celiac disease and a variety of other health conditions. She has developed a deep sense of compassion for what her patients are facing when she is not helping her patients in her practice. Five Journeys You can find her alongside her husband and their four kids, creating a eco system and their yard that provides nourishment to both their body and soul. Thank you so much for coming back on the show. It is awesome to have you here today.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Thanks, Ann-Marie. Great to be here.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: All right, so I’m continuing our series and we’re we’re kind of breaking this down into just a little smaller, a little mini chunks. I want to get into pesticides and how they’re going to impact the gut and also other systems in the body. So. So first, what are pesticides?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Pesticides are substances that are put on crops to help them do a number of things either avoid pests, avoid and avoid infections, avoid being eaten by different, very variable insects or animals. It’s a deterrent that helps the plant grow from a seedling to a final plant.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Right. And how are I mean, I think it’s pretty self-explanatory, but how are we getting these into our bodies?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Yeah. So the most the clearest way is we’re eating food that was either that was sprayed with these pesticides. That’s the most common way. However, there’s some another subtle way that people might not think about, which is if you’re eating organic food that was grown in a field that was right next to a conventional field when they spray the most commonly used herbicide in the in the world is actually glyphosate. And when they spray, it drifts. So it’s sprayed here. But the wind blew and it blew it here. And here’s the organic field over here. And so you get exposed through not only eating foods that are not organic, but eating foods that might be contaminated, such as chickpeas. A lot of chickpeas, even organic, are contaminated. So you have to be careful because even though it’s organic, it could still contain an herbicide pesticide insecticide, and there’s no way to know unless you test it yourself.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: You know, I had a conversation this week. I feel like I had this conversation at least every two weeks. And do I? I have folks that asked me, Do I really need to eat organic? Is it? That’s much better.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Yes, yes. So glyphosate alone, glyphosate there are like hundreds, maybe thousands of studies on it. It’s it clearly disrupts the microbiome, which has a whole host of downstream issues for people’s health. And then independently, it’s a risk factor for four separate lymphocytic driven cancers. And so, yes, I would say it’s it’s the data’s pretty clear, and that’s only glyphosate. There are other pesticides that act as endocrine disruptors in pro cancer causing agents, too. So, yeah, I do think I do think it’s important.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: So I mean, do you can you go into a little bit more on what they do to our microbiome in our gut?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: Yeah. So it can cause disruption of all comers. So bloating, gas, diarrhea, constipation imbalance in the in the gut flora. So think of your gut like this beautiful garden? And there you can grow certain bacteria that are like, I call them weeds. They don’t belong there. They’re not helping you. They’re not making the garden better. And then sometimes they can actually be invasive. And so when you disrupt this beautiful garden, you can have inappropriate bacteria grow. And that then leads to things like over secretion of beta glucan quantities, which is what we touched on in another one of these discussions and imbalances in the probiotics. So you may not digest your food as well. You may have growth of bacteria where it shouldn’t otherwise known as cibo, so its growth of appropriate bacteria in an inappropriate place in the small bowel. So there’s a lot of consequences that can happen for people.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: So many people struggle with bloating, bowel issues, brain fog, fatigue. You might not even have any gut issues, but did you know the cause of it could be food sensitivities or gut infections? What I have done is I have brought a talented functional nutritionist into my practice. We have very similar training in the nutritional world. And her name is Alexis Appleby. She is awesome. So you can head on over to our website, Alt Alty, Fam Fam Med Med and have a consultation with her and schedule so that she can help you get to the root cause of your problems. Absolutely. And how do we build back our gut after we have been exposed to these pesticides?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: That’s really a great, great place to start, Emory, so it’s really important to do your best to minimize exposure. So that is eating organic as often as much as possible and just making it the way like we eat organic period. Then the next part of that is ensuring that you get not too much processed food, you know, Michael Pollan really said it best eat food, real food. Not too much. So if if you have a whole list of ingredients, that’s a problem. Basically, the ingredients would be zucchini or eggplant or tomatoes, whatever that is. So try to have it be as minimally processed because not only do you get the glyphosate when you eat grains, but when you start to add all these different ingredients, you’re getting a lot of sources of potentially contaminated foods. So don’t try to avoid grains because that’ll decrease your exposure to clay. Is it organic that will decrease exposure to glyphosate and other pesticides and try to eat minimally processed foods so that you’re not adding a whole bunch of other other things into the mix?
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: If you can’t pronounce it, don’t eat the food. It’s not fair. Awesome. And then so. So building our got back after were exposed, what what do you think of that after being exposed to this tape?
Dr. Wendie Trubow: I mean, we’re basically exposed to glyphosate ongoing. So I’m a huge proponent of S.M.A.R.T and and a broad spectrum of Lactobacillus probiotics, both from food. You know, there are yogurts, tons of yogurts that have it. I just always say to people, you don’t want to eat the sugar yogurt because that’s, you know, giving with one hand and taking away with the other. So you really want to watch your sugar intake because that will also serve as a toxin for the gut and throw off the microbiome. But OK, assume you’re getting your probiotics from unsweetened yogurt or you can take a pill and then Espeland is a protective mode stream that helps balance out the gut, too.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: I have actually excellent story about yogurt. I’ve picked up some yogurt and I almost get I exclusively get no sugar, nothing. And it had like five grams of sugar in it. And I was like, What is this? This is so sweet, and generally you have a lot of yogurts that have 15 grams of sugar or just really, really high amounts of sugar. And that’s a really sneaky one because most people do not realize how sweet they are.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: So they’re really sweet. So I recommend not only unsweetened, but I mean, this isn’t really part of it. But artificial sweeteners also disrupt the microbiome. And so you don’t want to get a sweetened yogurt with artificial sweeteners, even if they’re natural, like stevia or monk fruit, because they’re also training the body to taste for sugar. And then it also there’s a philosophy or idea that when you eat, when you eat something that sweet, your body thinks that sugar is coming. So you put out a load of insulin, but no sugar comes. So you don’t have that spike, but you have the insulin. So now you have a plummet in your blood sugar and now you’re craving and hungry. And it actually looks like it leads to actually more intake than if you just had either no sugar or something. That was truly sugar, which I don’t recommend go for no sugar, no or low sugar, but it’s worse to do the artificial flavors and colors.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for being here and sharing your knowledge on pesticides in the gut.
Dr. Wendie Trubow: My pleasure. Thanks, Ann-Marie.
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