Today on the Gut Health Reset Podcast, we are discussing how your gut microbiome is connected to your Circadian rhythm, IBS, stress, sleep, and more with Dr. Laura M Brown! Did you know that a healthy gut microbiome is essential for maintaining a healthy Circadian rhythm? It’s true! Your gut health and your sleep-wake cycle are closely linked. Your microbiome plays a crucial role in regulating your body’s internal clock. When your gut is out of balance, it can disrupt your Circadian rhythm, leading to poor sleep quality, fatigue, and even mood swings. So, if you want to improve your sleep health, it’s essential to take care of your gut. Building a healthy microbiome through a balanced diet and probiotics can have a positive impact on your quality of sleep, allowing for better overall health and well-being.
In today’s episode, we will answer these questions:
– Why are so many people having problems with their digestion and gut microbiome?
– What is Circadian rhythm and how is it connected to the gut?
– How does your Circadian rhythm affect serotonin levels in your gut?
– How do eating and fasting affect your Circadian rhythm?
– And more!
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About Dr. Brown:
Dr. Laura M. Brown is a registered naturopathic doctor with a functional medicine approach. She focuses on stimulating the body’s natural mechanisms to repair damage and rebuild health. A HeartMath® Certified Practitioner and a level 2 Certified Gluten Free Practitioner, she holds the designation of ADAPT Trained Practitioner from Kresser Institute, the only functional medicine and ancestral health training company.
Titled Miss Teen Ontario at age sixteen, Dr. Brown battled many health challenges of her own, ultimately prevailing through naturopathic medicine. Personally, she writes, gardens, hikes, and entertains on twenty beautiful acres in the heart of Ontario, Canada. Learn more about her practice at southendguelph.ca.
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Dr. Laura M. Brown: [00:00:00] So this is huge, right? This is huge because, you know, we, as you said, people just think, well, I can go to bed at whatever time I wake up, whatever time, and it doesn’t matter. Well, it does matter. And they’ve done research on students, you know, they do better. You know, you will retain your short-term memory better.
If you go to bed before, you know, midnight you’re better to go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time every single day. Not only is this better for brain function, but we know the brain and the gut are intimately connected. The information provided in this podcast is educational and not intended to diagnose or treat medical conditions.
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Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Today on the Gut Health Reset Podcast, we are talking about the [00:01:00] circadian rhythm and gut health. We talk about how sleep disruption can actually predict the occurrence of irritable bowel syndrome, how the circadian rhythm predicts metabolic syndrome. Weight gain, obesity, nutrient absorption, and cell regeneration.
Thank you so much for joining us here today on the Gut Health Reset Podcast. I’m your host, Dr. Annmarie barter, and today my special guest is Dr. Laura Brown. This episode is so interesting and definitely a different take on gut health than you’ve heard before. Here. She is a naturopathic doctor. She’s a published author.
She’s heart mass certified. She’s a level two gluten-free practitioner, and her focus is digestive health and emotional regulation. She focuses on the healing power within the patient. Dr. Brown, it is such a pleasure to have you here today, and I’m very excited to talk about your book Beyond [00:02:00] Digestion. So why did you decide, what was the inspiration on writing this book?
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Really good question. And should I call you Dr. Barter or Ann? Sure. Dr.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Barter. Great. We’ll just be very formal today.
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Absolutely. That’s okay. So, Dr. Barter? Yes. The book really was inspired by my own challenges with digestive health, but of course, as we know on practice, we often attract patients with similar things to help us figure out, not only for them, but it helps give us clues for our own sayings that are going on.
So, so, it seemed to be something that I uncovered slowly over the course of my lifetime. And one of the reasons why you know, why I got into the whole realm of gut health is because I had issues with my own digestion, as I mentioned, and. I couldn’t quite figure it out and there wasn’t much information at the time.
Now since then, the research has exploded on the gut microbiome, so I’m always digging and digging into more information. But what I’m finding is that so many [00:03:00] issues with headaches and joint pain and skin stuff and cardiovascular disease You know, just weird rashes. And then of course, your gas pain, bloating, constipation, diarrhea, you know, those types of things.
You know, gastro reflux. These things all stem into the health of the gut microbiome. And then why are so many people having issues with it? So it’s, you know, trying to understand that part of it. So I just keep digging further and further down the rabbit hole and always coming back to, oh, it all starts in the gut.
So that’s why I wrote Beyond Digestion, I do truly believe that we have to digest not only our food, but the world around us. And that includes emotions and just stuff going on generally in life, toxins in our environment, that kind of thing.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Great explanation. So I’m gonna ask you a very loaded question.
Why are we having such problems with our microbiota?
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Really good question. I mean, it’s a loaded one and I think a lot of it comes down to toxins in our [00:04:00] environment. The amount of drugs that we’re taking, the level of stress and the go, go that we have in our society. The prevalence of plastics in, you know, in our environment, in our food stream, that type of thing.
Our disruption of our circadian rhythm, which we’re gonna talk more about today. Because our circadian rhythm is so intimate with our gut microbes and vice versa. And when things are disrupted, they get disrupted. Yeah.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Yeah, let’s I, because I am very excited to talk about this because it’s not something anyone else has really touched on and I was digging into the research and finding all this interesting information on circadian rhythm probably about a year ago.
So super interesting. So first, what is circadian
Dr. Laura M. Brown: rhythm? So, I mean, circadian comes from the word from a Latin origin, circa meaning a roundabout, right? And the circadian rhythm is basically our, you know, [00:05:00] our own internal clock. In our hypothalamus, in our brain, we have what’s called the super cosmic nucleus, and this is managing, this is our super clock.
Okay, so there’s like that big train in the, or the big clock in the train station. That’s what we have up in our brain in the hypothalamus, and that is what’s regulating what goes on within our body. Now it is affected by what we call Zeitgebers. It’s a German name. Maybe I’m not pronouncing it quite correctly, but that’s what it is.
And it’s like light temperature you know, things that we do like food. Exercise timing that we eat, these types of things can affect and seasonal changes, right? Light outside effects as well. So we see this disrupting that circadian rhythm. So it’s that ural, that biological timing or the cells know what to do, just like when the birds know how to fly south.
Our clocks, our cells regulated by those clocks know what to do when, and these things are controlled by not [00:06:00] only the clock, but our microbes, which have their own circadian rhythm and how they interrelate with one another to go in, turn our genes on and manage our hormones and things like that.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: So the first thing is so sleep.
You know, I, it’s, I think sleep is You know, people believe it’s fluid. Oh, I can go to bed at 1:00 AM and not have any consequences, but why am I feeling X, Y, and Z? So how does sleep in our circadian rhythm have an impact or prediction on I b S?
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Oh, absolutely. Because we know those that work in Those that work in shift work.
About 30% of them will have i b s because they’re, the clocks are, get messed up. Right, because they’re not, our bodies love love routine. They like to go to the bed at the same time. They like to wake up at the same time, exercise at the same time, eat at the same time, and just rinse and repeat the day after.
And when we do that, [00:07:00] it’s really lovely for our system. So we, you know, we train our children when they’re little with all of this, with the routines and that, because then, because you know, the body tends to know, you also see it in your pets. The dog knows what time dinner is, right? It doesn’t look at the clock, it’s tummy clock.
Right? And that’s what it is. And when you, even, when you know, you get those daylight savings hours changing, you know the dog’s still standing at his dish at the same time as yesterday, right? He doesn’t know. The times went back. But this is what we see. Our, we’re no different. We’re biological. We have these rhythms.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: so when we don’t, Sleep very well. We have a, so we have a much higher likelihood of getting i b s or some, any other gut disruption that we can see. Can we see inflammatory bowel associated with that or reflux? Have you seen
Dr. Laura M. Brown: any of that research? Well, we see research in obesity, cardiovascular disease.
We see it with i b D, [00:08:00] inflammatory bowel disease, i b s. We see it with hormonal disruption, right? For especially female hormones. And Oh yeah, we also see it in neurodegeneration. So we’re seeing it in things like cognitive decline, Alzheimer’s, that kind of thing. So this is huge, right? This is huge because you know, we, as you said, people just think, well, I can go to bed at whatever time we wake up, whatever time, and it doesn’t matter.
Well, it does matter. And they’ve done research on students, you know, they do better. You know, you will retain your short-term memory better if you go to bed before, you know, midnight. You’re better to go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time every single day. Not only is this better for brain function, but we know the brain and the gut are intimately connected.
We also know that you get sick easier when you’re not keeping a nice circadian rhythm when you’re disrupting your sleep. And what happens is you’re you, your biological clocks get a little bit out of tune, right? They get a bit messed up. Well, the viruses and, you know, the pathogenic, you [00:09:00] know, opportunistic.
You know, things that come and get us are just like going, yes, you know, let’s just get them all confused. Because that’s when they can go in and zap you. That’s when they can get in and disrupt, because you have to think the cell membrane, which it, you know, it’s a brain that decides what comes and goes.
It is so regulated on clocks and timing. So it does this at this time. It does that at this time, and it’s just this lovely handoff and when it’s a bit confused and messed up. It might be letting something in that it shouldn’t, it’s not as on guard as it could be. And this is why when we run ourselves down and don’t sleep and burn the candle at both ends, we get sick and we had to think over 70% of our immune system is in our gut.
It’s where we meet over 80% of our environment. So it, you know, it only makes sense that this is where we’re gonna start the breakdown in our defensive barriers. So
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: we have someone that’s, we’ve got someone that comes in, right, that’s really stressed out. They’re super stressed out and. [00:10:00] They’re, you kind, you run some testing.
They’re severely micronutrient deficient. They’re staying up late. Maybe they’re not staying up late, they’re just under stress. They’re, they’ve got symptoms of some sort of i b s type of syndrome. What, how is nutrient nutrient absorption affected by the microbiome circadian rhythm and stress?
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Well, we know that’s gonna be affected because First of all, stress will disrupt the diversity of the microbiome.
First and foremost, we rely on the microbiome to help us break down and digest, and it also makes some of the vitamins that we need, so it’s responsible for doing some of this. So if it’s busy, you know, getting all confused and messed up by, by stress and getting offset, then we’re not gonna be making the amounts that we might need.
So that could be part of it. And also if we are in this timing of this is to do this, you know, this does this at this time, this gene gets turned on at that time based on [00:11:00] where things are and the bacteria will translocate to different areas within the gastrointestinal tract in order to do the jobs to turn the genes on to do different things.
So, you know, obviously if that’s getting messed up, then our absorption is not gonna be the same. How,
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: you know, you mentioned previously, which I think is an, a very important point, but is not well understood, I think by a large portion of the population that it can lead, you know, when you have disruptions of your microbiome, it can lead to metabolic syndrome.
I think you specifically said obesity. How was that linked
Dr. Laura M. Brown: again, but with these translocation of the microbiome, Needing to turn the genes on within the gastrointestinal tract in order to help regulate hormones. You know, cortisol is involved in that. Okay. And we know when we have spikes of cortisol or too little, usually too much, you know, too much cortisol.
You’re pulling too much out of the [00:12:00] out of the bloodstream. It doesn’t know what to do with that excess sugar that we’ve pulled out to, you know, run from the tiger. So now is it due, it know, ends up. As excess, usually abdominal fat. So it’s just like, oh, well, we’ll just shove it in there cuz we don’t know what to do with it.
He’s not running after the tiger, right? He is. He’s, you know, typing on the computer. So, yeah, so that’s kind of where the obesity can start. It just starts to mess with signaling control, signaling controls, and also signaling controls for, you know, our appetite. Regulational hormones that regulate appetite like the graylin and the leptin, that type of thing.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: What’s been your experience in somebody that’s been under chronic stress, not sleeping very well. Does it look like if you run a stool test, does it look like they’ve taken antibiotics because everything’s been wiped out? Has that been your
Dr. Laura M. Brown: experience? Well, it depends on what’s go else is going on because as we know, there’s, you know, patients are much more complex than just the one scientific study in front of us.
And you know, they could have been traveling, maybe they picked up a parasite. [00:13:00] You know, you know, may, maybe they’re on birth control and now they’re more, you know, have more option for yeast opportunities in there. And they’ve had repeated doses of antibiotics or even antidepressants or overuse of non-steroidal anti-inflammatories.
These things and opioid drugs, painkillers, other ones. These things all affect the microbiome. So you can get those shifts. And if they’re not sleeping well, they’re really stressed. Yes. Now we’re seeing, again, another added layer of things that is affecting the diversity in the microbiome. So we’re seeing dramatic shifts in the healthy microbes, which as we just talked about, when you get that shift, now you’re more susceptible to the opportunistic.
Pathogens that you know, the gram-negative guys that you know off gas, those lippo polysaccharides or the toxins. Now, small amounts of those lippo polysaccharides, so little bits of these gram-negative bacteria are helpful because they help induce the REM sleep or that dream sleep, right, which is really great.
But when you start getting too much of [00:14:00] the gram-negative bacteria in there you end up with too much lippo, polysaccharide, or toxins. Right? And that can disrupt sleep. So it’s a kind of a chicken and an egg that’s going on. And now not only is it disrupting sleep, it’s likely, you know, leaning more towards that perial barrier in the gut.
So our leaky gut, now we end up with the toxins coming out into the bloodstream. So we end up with pain in the joints, maybe a headache. And that’s usually, you know, recognized more at night. And what keeps us up at night, other than, you know, lists in our head and things to do and anxieties is pain. Pain will keep us up at night.
So, there’s a lot of contributors going on here. So it’s like, where do you start? Right? How do you start? Because if you’re not sleeping, not much else is happening. Sleep is not an inactive state. It is a very active state that we need in order to heal, and we need to do that daily. It’s part of our daily rhythm and our routine.
That’s why we sleep. It’s, you know, it’s [00:15:00] designed. For a purpose. And you know, I would come back to just do those basics. Get those things in line, go to bed at the same time, wake up at the same time, eat at the same time, exercise at the same time. Not too much exercise, not too little. Wash the inflammation, you know, do some anti-inflammatories.
Feed the gut microbiome. Maybe, you know, maybe we’re looking at inoculating some. Taking out, you know, taking off some of the toxic load of what we’re doing so that we can drain that toxic button. But, you know, bucket. So it’s really, you know, helping the person get back onto track, get that circadian rhythm flowing again.
And sometimes it’s just a really simple stuff. Not a, not so much so many pills, but just the simple rhythm and routines that can help get the gut back in order. And then we’re also looking at, you know, food and food timing. Because if we’re eating, you know, huge meal before we go to bed at night, and now we’re sleeping on that, you know, we’re spending a lot of energy [00:16:00] digesting and now putting, you know, blood sugar is rising and that might be waking us up, alcohol and another thing, you know, spiking, you know, sedating at first but then stimulating later on, that would wake us up and have us, you know, in a poor night’s sleep.
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You’ve said so much in just like a very. Small timeframe here. You’ve dropped a lot of gems. I’m just gonna go back just a smidge because you said, you know, multiple things can disrupt the microbiome. And one of the things that you said is birth control, which I don’t know about you, but birth control is really interesting on forms that tends to be something that gets left out.
It’s not thought of as a pharmaceutical or contributing to [00:18:00] anything gut related or or basically any sort of yeast infection. So I mean, is that something that you address? If somebody’s having chronic yeast infections and they’ve got gut issues or urinary tract issues,
Dr. Laura M. Brown: et cetera.
Absolutely. I mean, if somebody’s on a birth control pill, and this dates back to a study that I found, you know, I think it was even like the 1970s, they said if somebody’s on birth control, they should be on a multimineral and a B vitamin. Right. It can be complex because it depletes those things in the microbiome.
It’s the same as if somebody’s on methotrexate, they need to take a B12 because it’s depleting that. We have to know what the, you know, what the medications are doing. They’re there for a purpose, and if somebody chooses to be on that, okay. You know, you have that discussion, but now you have to do some ti up of what’s going on and make sure that they’re well taken care of.
And, you know, they found, you know, some of the reports I was looking at said that the yeast infections happen early on and that they tend to dwindle later. [00:19:00] I don’t know. I, you know, I see the, you know, the bacterial vaginosis, which is a disruption in the microbiome in the vaginal tract that, you know, that we see that, and then you see the candidiasis, you know, happening more with, you know, antibiotics with the birth control, you know, with some of these other types of drugs.
So it’s, you know, it’s now looking at, okay, we’re, we need to treat this, and you educate the patient on the choices of what they’d like to do. They wanted to stay on the birth control. Then we have to, you know, we have to work with that. If they choose to get off of it, we have to make sure they’re protected so that we don’t have unwanted pregnancies.
So it’s, you know, it’s all about choices and education and I think, you know, as an naturopathic doctor, it’s, you know, that’s part of the role is to educate. So, so that our patients can be empowered in their dis choices and their decisions, and know what consequences come regardless with those, so that they can be the healthiest they can.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: I think that’s a very important point. And you know, I can’t tell you how many patients have come in and just said, I don’t know why the [00:20:00] person that put in my I u d or gave me birth control didn’t tell me this, or didn’t tell me that it could lead to this, because I’ve been back to them three or four times about.
This overgrowth of yeast issue and it’s super frustrating and this is really affecting my health. So I think that is just a very important point that you bring up for chronic candida issues or chronic yeast issues. So how do you feel like the circadian rhythm also affects things like you, you mentioned also you know, antidepressants.
So we also know that serotonin has a huge role in the gut in how food actually moves through the gut. How does their circadian rhythm also affect serotonin dopamine levels, GABA levels? As well, because we know that those are important as well as epinephrine and nor epinephrine for the gut.
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Absolutely mean. There’s so many roles. Serotonin alone plays. There’s over 22 different receptors. It’s working on a lot of the motility in the gut. [00:21:00] So that’s really key and important. And we see the the tone of the vagal nerve the information that’s going up and down with the bagel nerve. As well as the interrelation with the gut microbes and the circadian rhythm, turning things on and off.
Cuz we know that our shift and our rise in cortisol in the morning as the melatonin dwindles and the cortisol spikes. This is when the serotonin comes out to play and we have the gut motility and this is where we would normally have that bowel movement at, you know, around 10 30 at night. It’s kind of reversed and those things are, you know, tightened up.
So we see, you know, the importance there, but we know we make 90%, 90% of our serotonin in our gut and over 400 times more melatonin in the gut than the brain. So this, you know, it’s like, oh, okay, what’s going on? Well, it’s interesting cuz the melatonin in the gut is not life light sensitive, like the melatonin that is made in the penal gland in the brain.
But the melatonin in the gut is key. It’s to [00:22:00] healing. It’s good for anti-tumor, it’s good for healing gut cells. Well, why would we want so much in the gut? Well, we’ve got tons of area surface area in the gut. Think of all of those vili in the small intestine. Just, you know, it’s like a football field worth of space in inside of us.
And these cells turn over every three to five days. So what’s helping them heal? What’s helping do this? Well, melatonin is helping them heal. So it’s like, oh, well that may, maybe that’s one reason why we have so much melatonin down there. So, you know, that’s kind of curious. So yes, or circadian rhythms are pretty big.
And you have to think again of that vagal nerve highway because 80% of the information is coming from the gut and going to the brain. Only 20% is coming down. So there’s a lot that’s being created in the gut and we know the gut can make gaba and we know that it can make. Dopamine. We know that serotonin is actually a precursor to melatonin.
It goes trip to fan, to serotonin, to melatonin, so it’s kind of on the way. So, so these things are all [00:23:00] intertwined. Yeah, it could go on and on, but does that help answer I,
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: yes. It’s such a passionate, you know, piece because you know it, as you mentioned earlier, you know, one of the things that definitely can change the microbiome or even the circadian rhythm could be emotional stress.
And I feel like, you know, not only, we always talk about toxins and bugs and things like that, which definitely affect, but also. The emotional health and we see that, you know, i b s is linked with sexual assault and other, you know, emotional traumas ultimately, and that can deplete our neurotransmitter levels.
So, I so pretty big. So is there anything that I didn’t ask about that you think is important to address? Good
Dr. Laura M. Brown: question because I Time restricted eating would be something like the fasting, right? Because when we eat food that starts to, you know, stimulate that whole manufacturing process of digestion.
So if we’re eating at weird times, that can affect our [00:24:00] circadian rhythm, right? So we talked a little bit about eating at cer, you know, regular times, but we didn’t talk about, you know, changing the eating window and we see time restricted eating or fasting, you know, having that six or, I like talking about an eating window.
It’s nice to talk about things we can do and sit at the things we can’t. So if we have a six or eight hour eating window, we see how much this is affecting people with their weight management just by doing that alone. Right? It’s very interesting how that can happen. I’ve just taken a quick peek.
I. I think there’s anything else that we wanted to
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: talk about. So, yeah, I do wanna just touch on the eating windows. So, you know, there’s a lot of things on intermittent fasting or eating windows, and I think that there’s a lot of confusion when someone should start eating. Is it okay? A lot of people wanna have a larger meal later at night.
They wanna kind of skip the eating window until about noon. What’s your comment on eating a [00:25:00] very large meal before you go to bed and then maybe starting eating at noon, because I think that’s what a lot of people resonate towards.
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Yeah, it’s a good question. There’s no one right way for fasting.
And what’s right for one person may be very not right for another. The things that you wanna make key is that you’re hydrating, that you’re drinking water. And if you know, it’s not about starving yourself. If you feel woozy or off, you should eat something. Some days you may have more demands than others.
Caffeine will affect some of that. There’s no one right way for fasting. It’s a matter of choosing what’s right for you. You could fast one day a week, you could fast one week a year. You could, you know, you just choose what might work for you and it’s just keep, as I said, keeping hydrated. Eating that really big meal before bed.
Well, if you haven’t eaten all day and some people do like the once in 24 hours Very few do well with that, but I [00:26:00] think there’s some that do, and perhaps because their body’s just like wanting all that, it quickly takes it all and puts it where it needs to go and it’s very efficient that way.
And if it doesn’t affect their sleep, then I guess that’s right for them. But if it is affecting their sleep, then they need to think about it, right? I mean, we work in individualized medicine. There’s no one right thing that is just exploring possibilities. Is it doing harm cuz we don’t wanna do harm. And then going from there.
For some people they’re better to spread their eating out a little bit more. For others, they seem to do okay. I’ve seen both. I don’t generally recommend the once in 24 hours. I usually recommend like a six to eight hour window that starts late morning. And then finishes around, you know, seven o’clock at night type of thing.
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: Yeah. I like banker hours, like nine to five. That’s definitely, yeah, it’s with the sunlight. That’s just been, but that’s hard, you know, when someone’s getting off work a little later or whatnot. You know. So, do you have any [00:27:00] concerns with women doing Time restricted eating or intermittent fasting around their cycle during ovulation.
Is there any concerns with that? Or have you seen any trends where it’s harder to do during those periods, et
Dr. Laura M. Brown: cetera? Well, you know that there’s such a surge in the different hormones, and that can affect appetite, it can affect hormones in themselves, and it depends on the individual. Again, you know, how they’re refracting in the cycle.
Because you may need to eat a little more frequently. You may find that you just have to watch the blood sugar a little bit more during those times. Watch for the cravings because sometimes people are craving things like, you know, chocolate when they really need more iron and magnesium. So it’s watching those types of cravings as sugar cravings that could be more mood related.
You know, the drop in estrogen. Potentially we need to make sure that we’re eating more protein, so that we’re building those neurotransmitters. Sometimes just before the period that the the bowels will get really [00:28:00] tight and then they’ll get really loose. That’s hormone related as well. So sometimes it’s coming in and modulating those hormones with some of our lovely botanical herbs in order to help in order to help people through those times and to recognize again, If you’re feeling woozy or if you’re feeling off, this isn’t about starving ourselves, you know, just have a small snack, grab a handful of nuts if you can eat nuts or you know, a little bit of something that will help tide you over.
It’s more a matter of, you know, doing what works for you and then getting feedback from an expert based on your individual needs. Well,
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: this has been a super interesting talk, so this has been a lovely, thank you so much for coming on. Where can people find you and find your book?
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Okay.
Thanks Dr. Barter. I appreciate being indicted today. It’s really a pleasure to speak with you and beyond. Digestion is available on Amazon Worldwide. Need us look up beyond Digestion by Dr. Laura M. Brown, MD.[00:29:00] My, I’m on LinkedIn so you can easily look me up on LinkedIn. Dr. Laura M. Brown, md, and website is South End Guelph, g u e l p h.ca.
So that’s my clinic. So I do a lot of blogging on there. I do a lot of posting of, I find interesting articles when I’m pulling research together. I’ll throw it on LinkedIn, so if you follow me on LinkedIn you’ll get just kind of my brain dump of, oh, isn’t this cool? You know, my I’ll nerd out on stuff so that you’ll get stuff there.
Those are the probably the best ways to reach me, Dr. Laura at South. And as in, you know, the south end of town, guelph.ca is my email address if anybody. Needs to have any questions or anything like that,
Dr. Ann-Marie Barter: well, we’ll go ahead and we’ll put the links below so that people can easily just find that as well as the Amazon link to the book.
So thank you so much for being on today. It was just such a pleasure and looking forward to doing this again in the future.
Dr. Laura M. Brown: Excellent. Thank you very much, [00:30:00] Dr. Barter. Take care and have a great day.
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